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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:39:29 +0200</pubDate>
		<author>superpromotion</author>
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			<![CDATA[<p><em> Le téléchargement est depuis considéré comme un droit à la copie privée, comme prévu dans l’article 31 de la propriété intellectuelle. En échange, les espagnols payent une taxe sur un ensemble de supports (CD, DVD, téléphones portables, etc.).<br />
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<a href='http://www.ecrans.fr/Espagne-Viva-peer-to-peer,6036.html'>la suite..</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:35:43 +0200</pubDate>
		<author>jefrotul</author>
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			<![CDATA[<p>Yes I know. Pay Pay Pay<br />
(Eli)</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:15:48 +0200</pubDate>
		<author>Pascal Lebrain</author>
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			<![CDATA[<p>He he everybod see it from his home point of view !</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:35:23 +0200</pubDate>
		<author>yan</author>
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			<![CDATA[<p>hehe, Eli, what Superpromotion means is that the situation is perfect in spain ;) In France, we also pay the same tax on raw CDs or Hard drives, but there's a new law that will launch the downloader hunt. In Spain, they are leaved quiet by the courts!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:12:24 +0200</pubDate>
		<author>Eli</author>
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			<![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, I understand better now, thans Yan.<br />
But anyway they are trying it, like in France, and the pressure and influence of Sgae (spanish Sacem) is so strong that I would not be surprised if they becomes a political party for to be President of the state, once so, they will establish "The Modern Inquisition", with "droit du seigneur" and a law of taxes to charge for the air that we breathe (without it, we might not live, without living we might not practise piracy, without I practise piracy they do not earn even more money) Is sick! There's a lot of anecdotas and data about theyr "way to do".</p>
<p>I was in a comference from this people <a href='http://exgae.net'>http://exgae.net</a> and was quite interesting in a lot of ways. </p>
<p>Example: If my tinny label publish 500 records, I've to pay taxes for the artist rights for EACH RECOD MADE, and if a huge enterprise who publish Madonna, shoot 2.000.000 copies, they have to pay for RECORD SELLED.<br />
If madonna sell 0 records, tax free.<br />
If I sell 0 records 500 records tax payed (they must to think we are not going to sell a only record)</p>
<p>Example 2: If a record factory sponsor you and gift 10.000 record copies for add free as promo into magazines, you can't accept this nice gift, although you'll not sell it.<br />
Or simply some promo copies, or even CDR promo copies for your cousins! </p>
<p>So we never (or almost never) can use the factories offers for 1000 or more, thing that could make easier the promo and distribution and a more competitive price, becasue can't pay the authors rights.<br />
(I am not positioning myself in favour or agaisnt the author's rights, but the system helps the big producers and fuck or don't support the tiny ones, between a lot of details too long for add here now)</p>
<p>I've several projects and often appears this kind of problem. Sorry, in fact this wasn't the theme! Eh Yan?</p>
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